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[–]dromni 104 points105 points  (6 children)

Here in Brazil they are trying to put the blame of the alleged new surge on people who are not "fully vaccinated" as, like in Australia, the vast majority of people being hospitalized got their shots.

Thing is, it is easy to shift blame to people who are not "fully vaccinated" when no one can ever get fully vaccinated, as you are supposed to take a never ending number of boosters. [Taps head]

TL;DR: Big Pharma selling snake oil somehow is always painted as innocent.

[–]Bodhisafa 24 points25 points  (0 children)

not to mention all the math games they play with their dating...he only died two weeks after his 11th booster, so technically said person was not fully vaccinated.

I cannot believe anyone would take any more than the first 3. The LIES were so obvious from the start but so was the fear porn. By now though, COME ON MAN!!

[–]WhatIfIToldUu 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Not snake oil, that would imply it's just a money grab. They could have just done a billion saline injections. It's worse. These fuckers knew it was dangerous and would kill a ton of people and put it out anyway.

[–]Necessary_Extreme272 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct, mRNA is definitely NOT Snake Oil. Gene therapy designed to cause mass havoc on your immune system, and eliminate the weaker ones. Data already shows that, and it's only going to get worse all while they make millions and billions of dollars...

[–]Intelligent_Clock833 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I love Brazilians! Push back!

[–]IamMagicarpe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🍑😏

[–]not-the-fake-DG 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It’s those pesky minority of unvaccinated

[–]Bzzkirk 33 points34 points  (3 children)

What they're calling a vaccine never had anything to do with "covid." Not. One. Thing.

[–]BusLandBoat 23 points24 points  (0 children)

One thing, they have the same PR team.

[–]letsreticulate 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well, it was never a "vaccine." For one, a vaccine provides immunity --immunity is not the same as lesser symptoms, albeit if you squint and are stupid, then they seem like the same, they are not, and it also stops the spread. These shots do not do one for long or well and fails at the other. The latest shots last for 5 months, the previous lasted 6, before they go into the negative. As in, you would be worse than an unvaccinated naive person who never caught it. Multiple studies keep coming out demonstrating that. The US media just does not report on them but the EU does a bit more.

These are treatments or therapies. An endogenous antibody therapy, if you want to be more exact. But a vaccine, that is laughable. Problem is that the layman is to scientifically illiterate to know better and they are trusting the wrong people. Who are now too deep into their lie to backtrack.

[–]aemtynye 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is the truth at its very core.

[–]AMGS_Initiative 34 points35 points  (55 children)

What percentage of the population is vaccinated though?

Edit. Estimates between 95-99% of the population have received the vaccination.

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/australia/

[–]iResistDe4iAm[S] 13 points14 points  (26 children)

According to The Guardian AU (see OP image for screenshot, and also for URL), as at 9 Oct 2022:
86.1% of the NSW population were Vaxed with 1 or more doses
84.1% were Vaxed with 2 or more doses
53.9% were Boosted with 3 or more doses
19.4% were Boosted with 4-5 doses
So that leaves 13.9% who were Not Vaxed

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (21 children)

Seems inflated. Many people I know haven’t gotten one dose

[–]mtech101 20 points21 points  (14 children)

You are in a Echo chamber that is why lol.

[–]pestosbetter 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I’m not vaccinated 🫣

[–]Distinct_Living2099 2 points3 points  (0 children)

13.9%er checkin in.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (10 children)

Am I? As opposed to you? Do you know every human on earth? Kind of a silly thing thought. Who doesn’t live in what you call an echo chamber? I call it a region or a community.

[–]th3f00l 10 points11 points  (9 children)

That's why you use data and not your skewed personal experience.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (8 children)

You don’t think they lie?

[–]dr_freeloader -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Who do you think 'they' are?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The elected and unelected globalists pushing for a technocratic global totalitarian society.

[–]unpick -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

I don’t think they need to. I don’t think I know a single person aside from myself who didn’t go and get it, including everyone at my work place in AU. The opposite of your anecdote. The vast majority got it for sure and applied social pressure on everyone else. They wanted it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

How could so many fall for it? It was so sus from day one. Then, how hard they were pushing it and demonizing those who didn’t go along, just made me more concrete in my decision to never get the gene therapy mRNA bullshit. How could so many be so easily manipulated???

[–]itsnotthatdeepbrah 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Because people are stupid.

[–]neededtowrite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone arguing "people they know" in a population wide argument isn't going to listen to logic

[–]North_Acton 0 points1 point  (5 children)

And most people I know got 2 or more. Of all the folks I know I can only count on two hands the folks that havent gotten a single shot. And we’re talking about folks across 2 countries.

I know a lot of people.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's hard to gauge. "Official polls" may be skewed towards amping up the number of jabbed folks. And you likely know at least some that are unjabbed but keeping their cards close to their chest. There was a massive propaganda push directed towards the unjabbed and some who are not jabbed will likely be keeping mum, even now. That being said, I could believe the low unjabbed numbers. The propaganda push and gaslighting was relentless. And one relative of mine ended up getting pushed out of a public service job over the jab (and estranged from part of her family).

And given the relative apathy towards what we all went through it may reoccur sooner rather than later. The pandemic playbook is paused but Bill and Melinda Gates hinted that there may be another, worse pandemic planned.

[–]North_Acton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. Most People got the jab so they wouldn’t be fired. And a lot were either fist in line or bragged about getting the booster early

[–]Miloh_Dangler[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This guys popular

[–]North_Acton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I’m the guy who eats boogers that everyone knows. Well known but not popular

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So under your definition, you just have a slightly bigger echo chamber than me. I think they inflate the number of vaccinated for two reasons. One, it makes the unvaccinated seem like more of the minority. People like to fit in. And two, they use the survival rate of the unvaccinated to boost the number of those that were vaccinated and survived. Just a theory. Don’t yell at me.lol

[–]neededtowrite -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

The vast majority of the deaths are for people 80 years and older.

[–]slappava 11 points12 points  (2 children)

And the vaccines doesn't stop transmission. What argument is left for anyone younger than 70 and without comorbities, to get these vaccines?

[–]scentedcandles67 -1 points0 points  (26 children)

This. Tired of vaccine conspiracies. If you're getting information from info graphics it's probably bullshit to serve someone's agenda.

Numbers don't lie, but people who make up numbers do.

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    [–]scentedcandles67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Every down vote is a vote for a statistics major folks

    [–]Gnoom75 21 points22 points  (8 children)

    Free tip: Add age groups and compare percentages in these age group. Then republish.

    [–]College-Lumpy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    This is the real answer. Without this information you have no real data to draw a conclusion.

    Most elderly are probably vaccinated and boosted. Most deaths are among that population.

    You'd need to show that the vaccinated elderly died at a higher rate than the same age group that was unvaccinated. Show me that and you've got something.

    [–]mrhappyoz 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    [–]Gnoom75 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Thank you. There is indeed age related data in some of the sheets. Now only the combination of sheet 5 with sheet 1 is missing. In my country, the vulnerable people where vaccinate first. This group has a higher mortality rate by itself. Is the rate now different then during the pandemic and before? And what is the z-value, is the difference significant?

    There is only post-pandemic data, what happened the two years before? What is the protection period of the vaccin? IS it e.g. equal to flu, then one season, etc.

    The used number of vaccinated people seems to be the number of administered doses. People who died are not substracted from these numbers; the numbers only seem to increase or move to the group with more doses. The numbers should drop, at least once in a while, which does not happen in sheet 8, data on the right.

    Can you keep people in the groups of 'vaccinated' when they have been vaccinated more than a year ago? I don't have the medical knowledge to decide this for a proper analysis.

    I understand there are questions on effectiveness and side effects, and these questions must be asked and answered. But with a proper statistical analysis.

    [–]BoyFromNorth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Absolutely everything on that site proves that the vaccine doesn't actually exist.

    [–]mrhappyoz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    People looking at the vials with SEM haven’t found phosphorus, however I’m expecting that’s some kind of error.

    [–]Gnoom75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    And now we have 3 hypotheses:
    - The vaccin works and has reduced the number of deaths and hospital admissions
    - The vaccin does not work, au contrair, more people die from it
    - The vaccin does not exist

    [–]ApologistSlayer 23 points24 points  (8 children)

    Why would anyone take an experimental vaxx

    [–]formulated 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Undying trust in the untrustworthy.

    Humanity only got this far by trusting that the leaders of the group have the best interests of the group in mind.

    At the scale of millions, that is no longer the case.

    [–]gazeintoaninferno 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    Herd mentality

    [–]cloudburster1111 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Brainwashed zombies hooked up to the MSM. Shit is literally like the matrix out here, we're unplugged and living in the gritty reality while they choose some shiny lie.

    [–]GreenSky2077 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    To keep their jobs.

    [–]Guy_Incognito97 17 points18 points  (4 children)

    The people with the most doses are the old and vulnerable. You need to compare like-ages in each bracket. This just shows that people most likely to die of covid, died of covid.

    If you have 1000 vaccinated 40 year olds and 1000 unvaccinated 40 year olds that is a fair comparison.

    [–]AostaV 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    Also all those percentages look terrible but on average it’s 3 people per day are dying of covid over the last couple weeks in NSW Australia so no doubt the percentages are real but this isn’t a large sample size. Literally zero deaths for November 16th.

    [–]Sunimaru 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, the important thing is per capita rates for groups where the members are otherwise similar enough that the comparisons are fair. Even if you have age brackets, the results might still be misleading unless you also account for other risk factors like comorbidities, general health, exposure risk and so on.

    [–]iResistDe4iAm[S] 10 points11 points  (16 children)

    Submission Statement

    Refer to the image for a graphical summary of the latest NSW COVID-19 Deaths (last 6 weeks to 5 Nov 2022).

    94% of COVID deaths were Vaccinated with 1 or more doses.
    82% of COVID deaths were Boosted with 3 or more doses.
    The 4-5 dose Boosted group represents 19.4% of the population, but makes up a whopping 55.2% of recent COVID deaths.

    If the COVID vaccines work, why are the vaccinated dying with COVID at higher rates than the non-vaccinated?
    If the COVID vaccines work but WANE over time, why are the vaccinated with the most doses who were more recently boosted (4-5 doses) dying at higher rates than those with fewer doses?

    If the COVID vaccines work, why aren't they working?


    P.S. My recent comments with LINKS have been shadowbanned by Reddit.

    For links to Sources for this post, please refer to the child comment titled "SS Part 2: Source" below this comment. If you cannot see the child comment, then it has been shadowbanned.
    Alternatively, please refer to the "Verify the data" section at the bottom of the graphic in the OP.

    Shadowbanned comments can still be viewed by going to the user profile (i.e. click on my username, look for the comment titled "SS Part 2: Source", and then click on the links in that comment).

    [–]Intrepid-Delivery-66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Fuck 'em.

    They voted for it, they asked for it, they bent over for it.

    They deserve the outcome they begged for.

    [–]badgehunter 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    P.S. My recent comments with LINKS have been shadowbanned by Reddit.

    absolutely untrue, its because you attempted to ping somebody https://openmodlogs.xyz/detail/ModAction_66579c55-667e-11ed-bb46-199b7c9cbc27

    [–]iResistDe4iAm[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    badgehunter,

    Who did I ping?

    Click on my user profile and have a look at the actual comment. Those links are to valid URLs to legitimate government (health dot nsw dot gov dot au) and media websites (theguardian dot com).

    [–]badgehunter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    i would suspect this one was the culprit: health dot nsw dot gov dot au since it probably had / after u. if i am correct, automod just thought you attempted to ping somebody. also just incase reminder: same thing happens with / after r cause then it thinks you are trying to link to subreddit. in future put space after u&r before /. like u / or r / this way automod doesn't remove it.

    [–]iResistDe4iAm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    badgehunter,

    You are correct. I added a <space> in the 1st link after "nsw.gov.au " and the comment was published. However, the reader now has to copy the link, remove the space, and paste into browser.

    I have posted the modified comment as "SS Part 2: Source (2nd Attempt)" under the original SS.

    Thanks for your help!

    [–]iResistDe4iAm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    SS Part 2: Source (2nd Attempt)

    NOTE: Used URL encoding for ".au" to ".a%75", to prevent incorrect removal by the AutoMod.

    Verify the COVID death data at the official NSW Government website (download 6 weekly reports from 1 Oct to 5 Nov, refer to page 4): https://www.health.nsw.gov.a%75/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx

    Vaccination Rates via The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2022/nov/15/covid-19-weekly-cases-australia-vaccine-data-tracker-deaths-per-week-hospitalisations-coronavirus-tracking-stats-live-update

    [–]Zealousbroker 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    Actually fucked I can see your comment on your profile but not here. Shit you click it and it links here.

    [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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      [–]Zealousbroker 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      You see both comments?

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]Zealousbroker 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Weird I can't. I can't on his other post 2 months ago either

        [–]Intelligent_Clock833 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Sad but true

        [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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          [–]loscedros1245 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          mostly already old or vulnerable people

          You mean the same people dying from covid before there was a vaccine?

          [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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              [–]Zealousbroker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              That's exactly it. People who are dying are 80 plus.

              [–]jay3862 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Nearly but no cigar. There are no convid deaths as the PCR test is, in this context not applicable.

              [–]laurne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              That's because that's the percent of the general population that's vaccinated. Maybe learn how to interpret statistics before you try to use them to prove your point.

              [–]Drcha0s666 -4 points-3 points  (16 children)

              You do understand when the majority of a population is vaxxed, they are going to make up the majority of deaths right? How come you don’t report that vaxxed ppl are having more kids then the unvaxxed? Why don’t you talk about how vaxxed ppl have more apples in their fridges then the unvaxxed? Do you really not understand how population works? I mean I guess it explains your tiny world outlook and why you are so scared. But god damn it’s hard to watch the stupidity.

              [–]Independent-Camp-632 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              Get boosted ASAP

              [–]Drcha0s666 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

              You need to come up with some new shit. You guys all sound the same. Your group think game is weak.

              [–]Independent-Camp-632 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              You need to come up with some new shit. You guys all sound the same. Your group think game is weak.

              [–]Doctor_Deepfinger -4 points-3 points  (12 children)

              Are you just being dishonest here, or can you really not read the numbers? Death rates for unvaxxed are 5.7% despite being 13.9% of the population. I think you are using some standard boilerplate response from your script, but do not realize that it is an incorrect response. God damn it is hard to watch the stupidity from people like you.

              [–]Drcha0s666 -2 points-1 points  (11 children)

              Hey! i see what you did there! You are learning!😃🤙

              This is just a made up graphic with no relevance. I can make you some graphics if you want? Take a look around IRL not your online bubble and tell me ppl are dying en masse from the vax. There is no proof at all.

              [–]Doctor_Deepfinger 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              If you believe it the vax so strongly, are you up to date on your booster shots? I am amazed how many people like you on Reddit praise the vaccine, yet so few people IRL are going out and getting the shots still. Prove to us how safe it is by rolling up your sleeve and getting more of it pumped into you. And make sure everyone else in your family gets it too!

              [–]SpaceGangsta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Not OP but we all already did. Not a single problem.

              [–]Drcha0s666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Just cause you are scared of the vax doesn’t make it deadly.

              [–]nooneneededtoknow 0 points1 point  (7 children)

              It's not made up? They clearly cite their sources for the data below the inforgrpahs. If you find errors let me know because I didn't see any. There is limited information you can pull off data sets because there are a lot of variables but that doesn't mean they are made up and have zero relevance. People create these kind of dashboards to track anomalies and when you have the unvaccinated death rate lower the vaccinated it should be investigated as to why. The logical answer here is the people who are vaccinated and boosted are likely the most vulnerable and susceptible to COVID. But that needs to be properly researched and people have a right to ask questions.

              [–]Drcha0s666 0 points1 point  (6 children)

              And it is being researched. That’s why these post are BS and in the wrong sub. There is no conspiracy here.

              [–]nooneneededtoknow 1 point2 points  (5 children)

              The vaccine has not followed normal protocol for how research is done for any new drug. That in itself is a conspiracy. We have parameters set for a reason, and when you have mass exodus from them and have no real control group to test against, people are going to lose trust in the system. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots on why people don't trust the vaccines and the experts who rolled them out.

              [–]Drcha0s666 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

              Yup, I get while ppl don’t trust it. Doesn’t make it dangerous though.

              [–]nooneneededtoknow 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              The methodology is dangerous, a full-fledged campaign saying something is safe and effective while simultaneously not tracking the efficacy, side effects, and transmission rates was dangerous. We got lucky and I am happy to see more countries having reservation on boosters instead of blindly pushing them.

              We have these parameters set for reason to avoid past mistakes. They threw them out the window. It's like driving drunk but then saying, "Well, I only killed a couple of people and not everyone on the road, so it's not that dangerous." Not everyone died so it's obviously fine.

              [–]Drcha0s666 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

              Remember how many ppl got pissed when they made drunk driving a law? Because they didn’t need to be monitored? And They could be trusted to do the right thing. Some ppl even thought it was their right to get drunk and drive 😂

              It’s fine to not like the laws that the govt comes up with. Drugs being illegal has never once stopped me for doing them. But I know the consequences if I get caught. And I’m not gonna make up a conspiracy or cry about it.

              [–]nooneneededtoknow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              DUI laws started in 1910 - what an own, you must be really old.

              Big pharma is defending themselves from breaking the drunk driving laws and ostracizing people for calling them out on it. What they did was dangerous so I am glad we agree on that.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              From Covid?

              [–]binbinfromthe7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              🥱🥱🤷‍♂️

              [–]Apprehensive-Row852 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              But didn’t like 95 percent of Australia get vaccinated?

              [–]cheeseburgercats 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Might be a confounding variable that many of the people getting the 4-5 doses are primarily already at-risk people

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              1 vaxed group has less death then no vaxed group.

              The chart says that getting 1 vax is your best option. Meaning the vax actually works

              [–]ILikeCheesyTurtles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              They’re working as intended

              [–]Masterandslave1003 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              When almost all people have been vaccinated it follows that most hospitalization would be vaccinated people because they make up almost the entire population. This is one of those conspiracy theories from the mid pandemic.

              [–]VictorPedroNamura -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              *recent

              [–]Enough_Region_7641 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Depopulation by vaccine, Bill Gates will be pleased.

              [–]Bill_J_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Need age and vaccine status comparisons to draw conclusions…