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4/n I’m not even certain I know how to “debate” in this case. And then there is the particular problem of debating RFK Jr on this. I have spoken to him over the years and I’m willing to speak to him again, but it’s not easy…

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3/n I said maybe there are exceptions but generally science is conducted through peer-review and manuscript submissions or presentations at scientific conferences and meetings in front of colleagues for suggestions or in some cases concerns.

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2/n first science is not something that is typically debated like say 18th enlightenment philosophy or political issues. That’s not typically what we do

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⁩ for hosting me this evening I explained the problems of “debating” science on Joe Rogan with RFK Jr and there are several.

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Sam Won / 원영삼

@SamObiWon

Certainly a low point for Twitter and a dangerous example of disinformation & bullying in the public square.

has been a stellar example of an expert in his field doing good for all. What's happening to him is troubling.

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Rex Chapman

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Man I think Twitter pretty much died this weekend. Elon and Rogan teaming up to harass a covid scientist to the point a QAnon nutjob showed up at his house today. Getting scary.

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Pete Dominick

@PeteDominick

Tonight I spoke to my friend

about his history with

@joerogan

. Peter was a guest on Joe's show a few times and then suddenly stopped returning Dr Hotez messages

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Tom Nichols

@RadioFreeTom

This is not what set me off,

@michaelshermer

. Your support for harassing Peter Hotez, equating RFK Jr to Daniel Ellsberg (wow) and your "just asking questions" nonsense about RFK is where I've drawn the line. You're unblocked - but your position on this is shameful.

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Michael Shermer

@michaelshermer

This appears to be the tweet that set off @RadioFreeTom Nichols. It is factually accurate Tom. You do know that tobacco & pharmaceutical companies have lied to us & conspired to capture the regulatory agencies, right? Read Naomi Oreskes Merchants of Doubt & @geraldposner Pharma. twitter.com/michaelshermer…

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Pete Dominick

@PeteDominick

I just taped a chat with my friend

who I have known for over a decade and who has had...a day. I asked him if he was a shill for #pharma and where he got his funding $$ to develop vaccines that save millions of children

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Proud to know ⁦

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David Gorski, MD, PhD

@gorskon

No,

is not an expert "because he says so." He's an expert because his peers in his field recognize him as an expert based on his scholarship and contributions to that field. Dismissing legitimate expertise as "self-declared" is a common tactic used by cranks.

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Matt Strauss

@strauss_matt

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The absolute refusal of self-declared 'experts' to ever debate anything has continually shocked me since March 2020. You aren't an expert because you say so. You are an expert when your ideas have been reality-tested in public. twitter.com/joerogan/statu…

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Mehdi Hasan

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Tonight, on the

@MehdiHasanShow

, I'll be joined by doctor and vaccine expert

, who'll be responding to Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, and RFK Jr's nonsensical claims and challenges. He's been harassed today by anti-vaxxers at his home. Join us live from 8pm ET on

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Keep up the great work, Peter!

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defending Dr Peter Hotez

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Many thanks to Jim

@Acosta

and

@MollyJongFast

for your support, means a lot!

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Jeff Storobinsky

@jeffstorobinsky

Here we have @Acosta and @MollyJongFast defending Dr Peter Hotez @PeterHotez regarding Joe Rogan's challenge to debate RFK jr

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Thank you,

. Hold strong,

! The vast majority of health care workers, scientists, and the public can see right through bullying tactics. Science isn’t reality tv. 👍

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Dr. Jonathan N. Stea

@jonathanstea

“Never play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over. Then shits all over the board. Then struts around like it won.”

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Andrew Baback Boozary

@drandrewb

To many of us have pushed through the intimidation, but don’t bully heroes like Dr. Peter Hotez — just feel free to put out all the evidence in the world if you’re really worried about censorship.

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Starting to think that

@mcuban

is a pretty decent guy. First having a very respectful conversation with

@JohnReedStark

about crypto regulations and now standing up for

. Keep it up Mark Cuban :)

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David Weissman

@davidmweissman

Seeing it differently, now it makes sense why Joe Rogan has been harassing

for a debate with Kennedy on his show, it’s because if Hotez agreed, that would legitimize their conspiracy theories, which is what they wanted. Yes, it is a good call that it didn’t happen.

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@mcuban

for your support, that’s really nice and much appreciated

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@mcuban

Way to talk in generalities Joe. Not saying there aren't a lot of fucked up things about pharma. That's why we created Costplusdrugs.com. But to ignore that the same industry has saved who knows how many lives is bullshit and you know it. It's also disrespectful to all… Show more

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Alternative to Amazon:

@Bookshop_Org

bookshop.org

Dr. Peter Hotez discusses how an antivaccine movement became a dangerous political campaign promoted by elected officials and amplified by news media, causing thousands of American deaths.During the...

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George Lakoff is on Mastodon

Gregg Gonsalves

@gregggonsalves

This why you do NOT debate anti-vaxxers like RFKJr.

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@GeorgeLakoff

Don't take the bait! Debating someone with zero credibility or validity only helps them to gain status and spread lies. By trying to negate their false ideas, you'll end up activating them. They win by making the difference between lies and truth seem like a matter of opinion.

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I can’t imagine the last 3 years without Dr Hotez. He has added so much, aided us so much Thanks Dr Hotez

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If I had billions of dollars I would simply not spend my Saturday and Sunday trolling a pediatrician

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Leah McElrath

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Elon Musk has turned Twitter into a platform on which life-altering targeted harassment by right-wing zealots is organized on a mass scale and extends far beyond the internet. Solidarity with Dr.

. This dynamic will not stop with what is happening to him.

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Ugh I just was stalked in front of my home by a couple of antivaxers taunting me to debate RFKJr. Of course I was looking my Sunday best in our brutal heat wave. What is it with people? Well at least Houstonian’s now know I support the team…#GoTexans

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Folha de S.Paulo

@folha

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"Ativismo antivacina é uma força assassina", diz cientista americano

folha.uol.com.br

Peter Hotez vê movimento contra a ciência em novo estágio e defende que Brasil desenvolva indústria própria de vacinas

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3/2 In the meantime, thank you for all your support, means a lot

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4/n so go figure….anyway thanks so much for your support, means a lot

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3/n Also we actually go a step beyond, total transparency on how our vaccines were developed and tested in the open access literature. Something BigPharma never does, or seldom to my knowledge

peterhotez.org

Recombinant Protein COVID-19 Vaccine Technology Since 2011, the BCM-Texas Children’s CVD has been developing recombinant protein coronavirus vaccines for SARS and MERS, and in 2020 developed the fi…

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How to Stop the Drug Companies from Hiking Prices for Covid Vaccines | Washington Monthly

2/n also this in Washington

@monthly

which is so strange why the tres hombres Elon, Joe, RFK Jr target me when we actually achieved something that they say they want: Independence from BigPharma. Everyone talks about it, we actually did it

washingtonmonthly.com

The drug companies got rich during the pandemic through massive government subsidies. Now, they want to raise the price of lifesaving treatment. Fostering competition could keep costs down.

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Whatever happened to the new no-patent COVID vaccine touted as a global game changer?

1/n All the “pharma shill” accusations are absurd if you can appreciate how we developed two low-cost patent-free Covid vaccines, 100 million doses administered in low- middle-income countries. To read more about us, here’s a recent article in

@NPR

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The inventors of Corbevax said it was cheap, easy to make, effective and safe. They hoped it could bring vaccine equity to countries that can't access costlier shots. Has it lived up to its promise?

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2/2 The new book will help you to understand the political motivations behind the aggression vs both science/scientists. Also the toughest part: how 200,000 unvaccinated Americans needlessly perished because they fell victim to antivaccine activism. Ultimately why we need to care

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1/2 As both vaccine scientist + parent of a daughter with autism, I wrote Vaccines Did Not Cause Rachel’s Autism, which gave me a front row seat to 20 years of antivaccine activism, watching it grow into a political enterprise. My new book out soon

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Depressing to see serious issues reduced to entertainment for conspiracy cranks and the idle rich.

, a serious and respected scientist, should not participate in this bad-faith bullshit under any circumstances.

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@BillAckman

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.@joerogan, @VPrasadMDMPH has offered to take @PeterHotez place in the discussion. This is a debate/discussion that needs to happen. Vinay would help advance the discussion in pursuit of the truth. What do you say? twitter.com/vprasadmdmph/s…

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@han_francis

I stand against all stripes of harrassment of professional scientists. Just a PSA, if you are wondering why, we don't debate antivaxxers (reason number #123948).

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